that will hurt the economy. and in order to get their right wing tea party folks to even do that, to even extend the debt court of appealing to may 19th, they had to promise them that they were going to slash spending. and the only way to make the math work, i mean, paul ryan wants to talk about the math, the only way to make the math work in the way they approached the budget is to rescind and violate all the promises we made to our seniors, devastate medicaid, transfer rising health care costs on to seniors in medicare, cut investments in education that are important for our kids, all, by the way, all while protecting the tax breaks and loopholes for folks at the high end of the income scale. >> you know, my question for ryan would be, and of course to you, the republicans aren't going to go along with these kinds of cuts in defense. i mean, i think the democrats would certainly pare back on defense spending. but the republicans -- so isn't this somewhat of a phantom budget that he is trying to throw out right